[MarcusGarveyLives]

The following probably requires no further comment. Make of it what you will.

"A very liberal democrat

Mar 31 2006

Greg Truscott

A COUNCILLOR has posed naked on a website, handling his private parts and revealing his sexual fantasies.

Lib Dem Charles Anglin has admitted making himself available for sex with other men via the net.

The Lambeth councillor, who also stood as the party's parliamentary candidate for Vauxhall in the last General Election, has boasted of his sexual prowess on the website and revealed he gets an erotic kick wrestling other men.

In one picture he posted on the site, too explicit to publish in a family newspaper, he was wearing just a gold necklace while gripping his private parts in his hand.

In a profile next to the picture he said he is a single, gay man interested in meeting other men for one-onone sex.

He then revealed wrestling was his favourite sexual activity and added: "If you can wrestle then you are on to a winner.

"In fact I've quite a thing for wrestling, serious or sexy, beginners or experienced, if you are up for a little sweaty rough and tumble you can move right ahead of the queue."

Cllr Anglin, goes under the name "...Bullseye" on the internet site.

The South London Press uncovered the pictures and profile on the Gaydar website this week after an anonymous tip-off.

When we viewed the councillor's profile on Monday it contained the explicit picture and descriptive text.

But the day after the picture had been removed and the sexual content toned down.

Cllr Anglin admitted he had posted the picture and words on the web-site, which does not require a subscription to view.

He said: "I don't see this is an issue - it is my private life.

"I am a libertarian. I don't see what the fuss is about.

"Anyone who reads my profile will see that it is written in a fairly humourous way where I talk about who I am, my personal taste and the things that I don't like.

"The fact is we are a month away from the local elections and people think they might be able to cause some kind of embarrassment.

"I am a gay man and I've always been open about my sexuality."

When asked whether he thought he had behaved appropriately for someone in the public eye by advertising himself for sex on the website Cllr Anglin again stressed that it was a private matter.

Opposition Labour councillor Dan Sabbagh said: "This has nothing to do with the councillor's sexuality, and of course he is entitled to a private life just as we all are, but posing naked on a website is surprising conduct for an elected representative."

Lambeth's Liberal Democrat leader, Cllr Peter Truesdale said the pictures were a private matter.

He added: "It's time we talked about what is important, zero council tax, cleaner streets and new school places."

(Source: South London Press, 31 March 2006)

Meet "Bullseye" - "In one picture he posted on the site, too explicit to publish in a family newspaper, he was wearing just a gold necklace while gripping his private parts in his hand."



Black Empowerment

[The Freelance Scientist]

What da f***, man!

[MarcusGarveyLives]

"Liberal Democrats are hopeful they will gain their first black MP by ousting Labour's controversial Kate Hoey at the next election ...

... If they succeed it will mean Brixton, often known as the heart of Britain's black community, will have its first ever black representative in Parliament.

The challenger is Charles Anglin. He is confident of winning the battle for Hoey's Vauxhall seat and told Blink he expects some Labour activists to defect and work for him.

Political watchers believe that in selecting Anglin the Lib Dems may have pulled off a masterstroke.
In Anglin they have got a credible young black candidate with local roots. At just 32 years old he is already a councillor representing a Vauxhall ward.

For Charles Kennedy's party it's what they've previously lacked. The large black communities in Brixton have seen the Lib Dems as too white and middle class. And Kerr, for all his street campaigning skills, in Vauxhall he was an outsider with a plum accent and sharp suits.

Anglin looks more like the residents of Brixton, not just in skin colour, but also in appearance.
Speaking to Blink, Anglin said his local roots and support from the black community had rankled with Labour loyalists He said: "I am deeply unpopular with Labour councillors here because I'm black and I'm not in the Labour Party."

... Anglin says he was a driving force in efforts to remove crack dealers from Coldharbour Lane - and they are certainly much less seen outside KFC opposite the Town Hall than they used to be.

And three quarters of the estimated number of crack houses have been closed down in the last year. He also claims to have been a major supporter of the push to eradicate street crime, which has fallen by a third in Lambeth.

Anglin is clear why such action is important. "We need to return to the concept of family values. We have to stick with our families, and families come in all shapes and sizes."

He said this was not an attack on single parents, but a plea for fathers to stick by their children. For Anglin this is a core belief. You can try and create more opportunities and tackle discrimination, but this must be matched by people also helping themselves.

"This is a lost generation", he said. "It's being reinforced by another wave of 11-year-olds who've come out of the process not having a sense of commitment. They opt out of the legal route and that's a fundamental problem."

He is clearly a politician to shoot from the lip and lay his principles down no matter if they are unpopular.

In some ways this is not dissimilar to Hoey, but while his opponent fights for the right to hunt foxes and shoot clay pigeons, Anglin's beliefs are clearly much more rooted in the experiences of the community where he lives and represents in council.

.... Maybe Anglin is in the right place and the right time.

(Source, Battle for the heart of Brixton, 1990 Trust website, 14 November 2003)

Councillor Charles Anglin
(Lib Dem, Prince's Ward, London Borough of Lambeth)



"We need to return to the concept of family values." (November 2003)


" ... posed naked on a website, handling his private parts and revealing his sexual fantasies ..."

"... Lib Dem Charles Anglin has admitted making himself available for sex with other men via the net .."

" ... boasted of his sexual prowess on the website and revealed he gets an erotic kick wrestling other men ..."

"... In one picture he posted on the site, too explicit to publish in a family newspaper, he was wearing just a gold necklace while gripping his private parts in his hand ..." (March 2006)



"Bullseye"

Advice Surgery Details: Every Thursday : 6.30pm to 7.15pm, 'Old' Social Services Office, 190 Kennington Lane, SE11
councillor@anglin.org.uk

[Forward]

What's the fuss? It's the brotha's own damned business what he does with his body. It is illegal? I think not. He has a right not to hide his sexual orientation. Who cares what YOU get up to in the privacy of your home - or on the net if you so choose?

Get back to the real issues he is interested in promoting. At least he is cares about his community and is willing to make a stand. Better it comes out now (his sexual orientation) than be pushed under the carpet only to be spilled out later by the scandal-loving press.

Shame I don't live in Brixton as I'd certainly vote for him... for his politics, of course...

Personally, I don't think he'll get anywhere this time around. Look out in 10 years' time when people will be more liberal. This case will come up as the first ?? one of the first to say "pay attention to my politics and less to my private life."

Mmmmmmm I don't dare look at his site - just in case though..

[huzzah]

Remember the old days politicians were known for their political stance rather than yanking their wang? He is not representative of the black community.

[Lady Vee]

What's the fuss? It's the brotha's own damned business what he does with his body. It is illegal? I think not. He has a right not to hide his sexual orientation. Who cares what YOU get up to in the privacy of your home - or on the net if you so choose?

Get back to the real issues he is interested in promoting. At least he is cares about his community and is willing to make a stand. Better it comes out now (his sexual orientation) than be pushed under the carpet only to be spilled out later by the scandal-loving press.

Shame I don't live in Brixton as I'd certainly vote for him... for his politics, of course...

Personally, I don't think he'll get anywhere this time around. Look out in 10 years' time when people will be more liberal. This case will come up as the first ?? one of the first to say "pay attention to my politics and less to my private life."

Mmmmmmm I don't dare look at his site - just in case though..

I'm afraid I think this man is a hypocrite.

How can he promote family values when he takes it up his bum?

God made Adam & Eve - not Adam and Steve, therefore his values are off base.

If he "cleared the KFC in Brixton of crack dealers" and never used the words "family values" I'd have more respect for him.

[akin]

I'm afraid I think this man is a hypocrite.

How can he promote family values when he takes it up his bum?

God made Adam & Eve - not Adam and Steve, therefore his values are off base.

Lady Vee,

attacking someone just because they have anal intercourse doesnt make sense.

He could be a very good father in the future with an aspiring young adopted son.

I could sight an example of hetrosexual African/caribbean dysfunctional family and their underachieving children.

[The Freelance Scientist]

I haven't got a problem with the man being gay. And I frankly don't care what this man in private life or whatever stuff he does inside his home. That's his business. My problem is his flaunting of his sexuality on a website that is easily accessible. By most people standard's, this is not normal or appropiate behavior. It is not what we expect our "representatives" in high office to be engaged in publicly, without any shame or remorse. I would be saying the same if this guy was straight. It's because of people like him engaged in double-standards that a whole generation of people have lost faith in politics and politicians.

This post has been edited by The Freelance Scientist: 03 April 2006 - 10:42 AM

[Forward]

@ Freelance Scientist

Perhaps it's time for us to not expect our representatives to act in any particular way and time to let them be as long as they are not hurting anyone.... no people's prudish sensitivities do not count under my definition of "hurting".

The fact that he is open should be to his credit. Nothing hidden away that would make him a target for bribery later. I'd much rather trust him than so many "apparently clean-living" individuals who live a double life and live in fear of being caught and exposed so are easily manipulated.

Why should he be ashamed of what he likes? Are you? I bet not. So why should he? Oh, because he is running for "high office"? What difference should that make.. Yeh, yeh, in some people's minds there are "standards"....

If you enjoy flying kites and wanted to advertise on the net looking for fellow kite flyers and you have a beautiful kite (his ...erm... well... "kite") and you thought it would be to your advantage to show a photo of your kite so others who like it (and can judge by the size, colour, perhaps workmanship etc. that their kite is of a similar quality to yours) (not hand made or of cheap material or small) would contact you to arrange convenient kite flying days, would you have a problem with that?

The brother is advertising his best point (no pun intended) in order to find suitable partners. So what?

If he were straight and did the same thing I'd see not problem with it.

And to those who have problem with visualising activities from behind, let he or she who is innocent cast the first stone.

There is no way his job should be affected. Think of all those "high level representatives" who have lived and those who are STILL living a lie just to maintain appearances so that the prude brigade will not be offended. Suck teet.

Let's not even go there with the goings on within the bellies of way too many religious organisations in the black and non-black communities which are the standard bearers of morality.


For those of you with no sense of humour, please stop here as you are likely to lose your lunch if you read on and I wouldn't want to be responsible for you messing up your work clothes.


I just wish I were male and gay.... as I'd be all over that fine-looking brother.

[The Freelance Scientist]

@ Forward.

You had me in stitches over your kite anology. Brilliant!

But seriously, sis. When I meant by "representatives," I didn't mean us as in the African community; I meant everyone in the community that he "represents" - African, Caucasian, Asian etc.

Maybe he was open about his sexuality, but he sure weren't open about his presence on the website. If he was, and felt no shame, why was "his picture removed and his sexuality toned down." Maybe even he, flaunting himself as he did, saw what he was doing was too much?

As I said, it don't matter if he is gay or straight. That's up to him. Don't care what anyone is doing in their crib. Up to them? We're all human. We're subject to a little corruption, make mistakes, tempted by a little something on the side; That's what politicians do. But have a little respect for the people you represent and the office that you're maintaining. If you want a colorful life and you're running for public office, know full well that people, no matter how unfair it is, will judge you, and the press will scrutinize your every move. That comes with the territory. There are thousands of men posting themselves on websites and nobody gives a toss (No pun intented) because they're private people doing their ting. But when you stand up for high office, influencing laws and deciding on how people should live their lives ie. how much more council tax you should be paying, then we have every right to pry into yours.

This post has been edited by The Freelance Scientist: 03 April 2006 - 02:33 PM

[PantherWoman]

@ Forward.

You had me in stitches over your kite anology. Brilliant!

But seriously, sis. When I meant by "representatives," I didn't mean us as in the African community; I meant everyone in the community that he "represents" - African, Caucasian, Asian etc.

Maybe he was open about his sexuality, but he sure weren't open about his presence on the website. If he was, and felt no shame, why was "his picture removed and his sexuality toned down." Maybe even he, flaunting himself as he did, saw what he was doing was too much?

As I said, it don't matter if he is gay or straight. That's up to him. Don't care what anyone is doing in their crib. Up to them? We're all human. We're subject to a little corruption, make mistakes, tempted by a little something on the side; That's what politicians do. But have a little respect for the people you represent and the office that you're maintaining. If you want a colorful life and you're running for public office, know full well that people, no matter how unfair it is, will judge you, and the press will scrutinize your every move. That comes with the territory. There are thousands of men posting themselves on websites and nobody gives a toss (No pun intented) because they're private people doing their ting. But when you stand up for high office, influencing laws and deciding on how people should live their lives ie. how much more council tax you should be paying, then we have every right to pry into yours.

Isn't it about time we stopped judging public figures on what they get up to in their sex lives though? I mean, if we had found out that Maggie was cheating on Denis during her time as PM, that could have shown us that she had a weak/selfish/'immoral' character, not trustworthy possibly; but if she had been single and advertising herself on the internet, would that have told us anything we needed to know in order to decide if she was fit to run the country?

[Forward]

I'm glad you had a laugh.

I can only imagine that his photo was taken down, unfortunately, before I plucked up the courage to have a peek, because of the attitude of jealous men? prudes? his PR machine finally kicking in? his boss? either way somehow I imagine that if he had his say he would have had no problem leaving it up. If anyone has a photo of him in his full glory can they send it to me via PM?

Don't you think that he knows that people will judge him. And his attitude is or was until recently "this is me. Accept me as I am...I'm not hiding anything. Now that's out of the way... let's get down to business --- let's talk about what matters - taxes, education etc. etc.." But as this is being blown out of proportion he was forced to take it down so he can get some peace...

This one little issue is clouding over the good this brother could be doing in Brixton. So what he wouldn't find me attractive. Damned shame! Give him a chance to see if he can improve the lives of people in Brixton. I wonder if he has a website asking people to support him? I wonder if I'd be the only straight female? Perhaps with Pantherwoman.

Hopefully, this will die down soon. I really think there are lots of other more important issues facing the African community than this brother and his website. Calling all brothers (probably a VERY hard sell) and sisters in Brixton - VOTE FOR HIM. He might have a straight, single brother who looks like him.

What a waste... when so many of us single sisters are out there looking for a good brother. Shakes head...

Pantherwoman makes a good point.

[PantherWoman]

I'm afraid I think this man is a hypocrite.

How can he promote family values when he takes it up his bum?

God made Adam & Eve - not Adam and Steve, therefore his values are off base.

If he "cleared the KFC in Brixton of crack dealers" and never used the words "family values" I'd have more respect for him.

If he were not taking it up the bum (but secretly wanted to) would it be okay for him to then promote family values?

If he was prepared to live life as a celibate gay man, would this make him more believable as an advocate for family values?

Is someone who desires/has anal sex automatically unsuitable for work in politics on these grounds alone?

As a single woman, if I were to go into politics, would I need to be married or engaged before I could (credibly) promote family values?

If as a single woman, I did decide to become a politician but was advertising myself on the internet for sex, would anyone hold this against me?

btw what are we calling 'family values'?

[BlackMatta]

Question for the liberals in this thread.

If he was into sheep and geese would he still be eligible for your vote?

(He's not hurting anyone and it's his own private business, right?)

[Forward]

Absolutely providing it's not illegal. I don't know, nor am I interested, in what anyone body else is into whether they hold political office or not. Frankly, it's none of my business. Can they do their job is all that counts in my eyes.

The brother's got guts - and a heap of self-confidence. Should I say HAD until the PR machine kicked in.

[BlackMatta]

Absolutely providing it's not illegal. I don't know, nor am I interested, in what anyone body else is into whether they hold political office or not. Frankly, it's none of my business. Can they do their job is all that counts in my eyes.

The brother's got guts - and a heap of self-confidence. Should I say HAD until the PR machine kicked in.

Would you be happy for your children if/when you have them to have a similar sexual orientation?

[MarcusGarveyLives]

This gentleman is one of the people who was being promoted by Operation Black Vote. Does anyone have any actual evidence of what this gentleman has done with the political power given to him by his African constituents when he is not posing on internet sites "wearing just a gold necklace while gripping his private parts in his hand"?

Black Empowerment

[PantherWoman]

This gentleman is one of the people who was being promoted by Operation Black Vote. Does anyone have any actual evidence of what this gentleman has done with the political power given to him by his African constituents when he is not posing on internet sites "wearing just a gold necklace while gripping his private parts in his hand"?

Black Empowerment

MGL do you think it's fair to associate this man with Operation Black Vote and Simon Woolley? Come on now, I'm sure he hasn't done anything bad enough to deserve that!

Posing with just a gold chain on and his meat and two veg in his hands?? I wonder if he was pouting?? That's more comical than anything else, I know you're a serious bro MGL but I bet you've laughed since reading this story. I know I have.

[MarcusGarveyLives]

They promoted this gentleman as part of their belief in "black empowerment" ...

"... In one picture he posted on the site, too explicit to publish in a family newspaper,
he was wearing just a gold necklace while gripping his private parts in his hand ..."



Black Empowerment

It would be nice to hear what he has to say about this politician and his "black empowerment" now.

[Timeline]

Question for the liberals independent in this thread.

If he was into sheep and geese would he still be eligible for your vote?

(He's not hurting anyone and it's his own private business, right?)

He would have to pick one or the other. Marry the sheep or goose and then attempt to start a family AND REMAIN FAITHFUL. That will secure votes because there is nothing that turns voters off like a two-timing politician (ask Bill Clinton).

This post has been edited by Timeline: 04 April 2006 - 12:15 PM