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#21 KeepFlame

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 09:51 PM

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QUOTE (Toyin @ Oct 6 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is no doubt in my mind that Asian police officers face discrimination within the police force but it should be obvious to all that African officers have face a distinct and persistent brand of racism that long existed before the existence of the “muslim terrorist” threat.

True. African officers have suffered greater Racism at the hands of the White Supremacist then any other non-white officer. It is also part of the White Supremacist ploy within the force to form a hierarchy of treatment with African officers being at the bottom. This strategy produces hatred or dislike between the so-called races categorised by the White Supremacist.

If you remember the 1980's in England the word 'paki' would be heard frequently from the mouth of White Supremacist controlled individuals.

QUOTE (Toyin @ Oct 6 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It’s economic foundation and therefore political powerbase is constrained by the Home Office. Therefore it is NOT an independent organisation.

It’s MLK ideological foundation where ANYBODY (including the racist anti-African officers of the Police Federation) is entitled to join the NBPA means the African members who dominate its management structure have not been prepared to firmly stand up on principle from the offset.

True. Recently the NBPA have been acting against the interests of the White Supremacist within the Home Office, which is the likely reason funds have been cut or frozen.

Edited by KeepFlame, 10 October 2008 - 04:18 PM.


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Posted 10 October 2008 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE (Afritude @ Oct 4 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... My question is this ...

Still no word?

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 12:23 PM

From Times Online

October 8, 2008
Police talks over ethnic community recruitment boycott break down

Adam Fresco, Crime Correspondent

The Black Police Association is refusing to hold any further talks with the Met’s new leadership about a planned ethnic community boycott of the force after an initial meeting ended in rancour.

Discussions between the two groups broke down on Tuesday after allegations that “inappropriate language” was used by a senior Scotland Yard official.

The meeting is said to have gone downhill after Martin Tiplady, the Met’s Director of Human Resources, used the phrase “you people” while he was trying to broker a working agreement with the BPA.

Sir Paul Stephenson, the Deputy Commissioner, who is the acting head of the Met after Sir Ian Blair was ousted last week, had called the emergency meeting to try and resolve issues and stop the boycott from taking place.

But a senior source at the BPA told The Times today that “everything has broken down - a complete disengagement has taken place”.

The source added: “The person was confronted about his language and everything then broke down. We will not talk to the acting commissioner or engage with him.”

The BPA has claimed that, despite its new leadership, the Met was marked by “a hostile atmosphere where racism is allowed to spread”.

Senior members of the BPA met on Tuesday night after the Met talks and said they felt they were being “coerced and pressured” into stopping their boycott.

A letter is expected to be in the Deputy Commissioner’s in-tray tomorrow morning informing him of the BPA’s decision. The association said it will now only talk to the inquiry being set up by Boris Johnson, the mayor of London, to investigate alleged racism inside the force.

In the letter to Mr Stephenson the BPA say that it will not meet him “in any shape or form”.

A senior source at the BPA told The Times: “We are saying ’we do not want to meet or have any sort of negotiations with you in any shape or form. The boycott stands and the advertisements will go out.”

The source added: “We will not meet or negotiate with the Met because there is a lot of pressure being put on us to remove the boycott, trying to coerce us. We will give our submissions to the inquiry being set up by Boris Johnson.

“Mr Stephenson will be put on notice today of what is happening by way of a letter.”

A spokeswoman for the Metropolitan police said: “The MPS can confirm that a meeting took place on Tuesday 7 October at our invitation, as we are keen to seek a way forward in relation to any concerns raised by the MBPA. As is normal, detailed minutes were taken and for clarification, the Director of Human Resources, Martin Tiplady said: “With or without an Inquiry, let's work with you people to make it (the MPS) a better organisation and return to normality.” Clearly no offence was intended by this statement and merely referred to the working relationship between the MPS and the Association. We are intent that we continue to make efforts to see a way forward with cool heads, appropriate language and cooperation.”

On Sunday, the BPA attacked both the senior management of the Met and the Metropolitan Police Association, now chaired by Mr Johnson, for not doing enough to stop racism and for not protecting its members. The association told the Times that it will take out a series of adverts in the national press during Black History Month warning any potential black or Asian recruits not to join the Met .

Mr Stephenson recently told Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, who has accused the organisation of racism, to “shut up” and get on with his job after the force’s most senior Asian officer held a press conference to publicise his intention to pursue an employment tribunal.

A spokesman for the BPA said: “We will not put up or shut up to racism and inequality.”

Police talks over ethnic community recruitment boycott break down

Edited by KeepFlame, 14 October 2008 - 12:23 PM.


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Posted 14 October 2008 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (Afritude @ Oct 4 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... My question is this ...

The suspense is killing me ...

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 10:47 PM

QUOTE (KeepFlame @ Oct 14 2008, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
“The MPS can confirm that a meeting took place on Tuesday 7 October at our invitation, as we are keen to seek a way forward in relation to any concerns raised by the MBPA. As is normal, detailed minutes were taken and for clarification, the Director of Human Resources, Martin Tiplady said: “With or without an Inquiry, let's work with you people to make it (the MPS) a better organisation and return to normality.” Clearly no offence was intended by this statement and merely referred to the working relationship between the MPS and the Association. We are intent that we continue to make efforts to see a way forward with cool heads, appropriate language and cooperation.”


One of these phrases suggesting a respectful working partmnership between the MPS and MBPA is the odd one out;

  • Let’s work together
  • Let’s work in harmony
  • Let’s work as colleagues
  • Let’s work to resolve

or
  • "let's work with you people…"

You couldnt make this stuff up.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:08 PM

MP mix-up as wrong David Davies accuses National Black Police Association of racism!

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 05:56 PM

I know that this topic is long while ago but I will add this anyway for Elder.
well, I posted something on my 4yrs plus surveillance ongoing abuse. Though I am deeply saddened that not a single brother or sister has "raised a finger to help", I will put this hurt aside and comment that: my story and other past testimonies of true warriors clearly shows that in a significant number of cases, it is "our own kind" who makes it easier for "primary" racism etc to gain strongholds and continue to enbondage us in all our edeavours. thanks for your ears.

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 06:04 PM

I know that this topic is long while ago but I will add this anyway for Elder.
well, I posted something on my 4yrs plus surveillance ongoing abuse on 3rd Nov. Though I am deeply saddened that not a single brother or sister has "raised a finger to help", I will put this hurt aside and comment that: my story and other past testimonies of true warriors clearly shows that in a significant number of cases, it is "our own kind" who makes it easier for "primary" racism etc to gain strongholds and continue to enbondage us in all our edeavours. thanks for your ears.

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 11:06 AM

QUOTE (Afritude @ Oct 4 2008, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... My question is this ...

Have they answered your question yet?

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 11:46 PM

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... I guess they're too busy to answer ...



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Posted 01 October 2011 - 08:39 PM

Dizaei reinstated and then suspended as police saga goes on (click for more)

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He's back !!!



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Posted 09 October 2011 - 07:57 PM

Meet PC Brother Peter Vince-Lindsay of British Transport Police ...

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... read about his problems here



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Posted 13 February 2012 - 11:00 PM

Dizaei reinstated and then suspended as police saga goes on (click for more)

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He's back !!!

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He's back ... in prison !!!

... Ali Dizaei's back ... in prison



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Posted 14 February 2012 - 07:17 PM

A flash, brash, arrogant copper: shed no tears for Ali Dizaei
Sadly, other ethnic minority police officers are likely to suffer as a result of Dizaei's actions



BY Robert Chesshyre LAST UPDATED AT 09:41 ON Tue 14 Feb 2012


AS ALI DIZAEI - for the moment, at least, still a commander in the Metropolitan Police - returns to jail to complete a three-year sentence for stitching up a business acquaintance and horribly abusing his powers as a very senior police officer, there will, I suspect, be much gloating in the ranks of his former colleagues. Brash, outspoken and successful as few other ethnic minority cops have been, he was widely disliked among many conservative senior officers.


A decade ago, Operation Helios, which at a cost of &amp;amp;pound;2.2 million was the most expensive inquiry ever into the alleged failings of a police officer, crashed spectacularly when an Old Bailey jury cleared Dizaei of charges very similar to the ones for which he has now been convicted.

Many police were furious, especially when Dizaei, now 49, not only resumed his career, but was promoted to the rank of commander, the equivalent in provincial forces of assistant chief constable.
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Having, as they thought, removed the thorn from their side, there it was again - sharper than ever. Dizaei, never one to pull his punches, must have thought that he was fireproof. As head of the National Black Police Association (though far from &amp 'black' Dizaei was Iranian by birth, which gave him the status of an ethnic minority officer) he resumed his criticisms of a police service that he believed remained racist despite reforms after the Stephen Lawrence murder.



He criticised police operations, notably the botched &amp;amp;lsquo;anti-terror&amp;amp;rsquo; raid on the home of two Muslim brothers in east London, and he challenged what he saw as the ethnic profiling of airline passengers. He sneeringly suggested that a new offence was being created: &amp;amp;ldquo;travelling while Asian&amp;amp;rdquo;. He also supported another senior 'black' officer, Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, who went to law against the Met over claims of racial discrimination.


Read more: http://www.theweek.c...i#ixzz1mNumYTp

Have these two non-Africans, the arrogant former head of the NBPA, Dizaei


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and the incompetent, Ghaffur destroyed the last remaining credibility of the National 'Black' Police Association for good?




Constitution

1.3 The definition of "Black" is one that emphasises the common experience and determination of people of African, African-Caribbean, Middle-Eastern, Asian or Asian sub-continent origin to oppose the effects of racism and victimisation
The complete constitution can be read by clicking the link below.
NBPA Constitution May 2009

Source: http://www.nbpa.co.u...s/constitution/



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Posted 16 February 2012 - 12:44 PM

Christina Patterson: The struggle against police racism has just got a lot harder

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:15 PM

Black woman gets top job as the Yard faces racism claims (click for more)


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Patricia Ferguson Gallan QPM: "Born and brought up in Scotland ... Ms Gallan has always played down her background, once stating in an interview: “When it comes to being the first black woman ACC, it’s not something I think about. I just want to do a good job.”



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Posted 29 April 2012 - 12:57 PM

There was a very interesting debate on Voice of Africa Radio recently discussing the motivations of the Black Police Officers Federation recently.

A compelling view was put forward that the organisation itself and their most progressive actions like the 'Met recruitment boycott' were hijacked by high ranking non-Africans like Dizaei and Ghaffur.

In fact Metropolitan Police commander Ali Dizaei, a non-African and now convicted criminal was actually appointed head of the National Black Police Association with the full support of its senior members. A fact that has without a doubt tarnished its reputation and that of the good officers within its group.

Today the integrity of the MBPA is sadly in tatters. Sadly they all now come across as clowns and puppets when they started of as a progressive revolutionary force known for also doing some good work in the community with our young.

Which leads us to the recent post on the appointment of Patricia Ferguson Gallan QPM.

This statement;

"When it comes to being the first black woman ACC, it’s not something I think about."


I do not know our Sista Pat Gallan, she may be a lovely, hard working, talented officer who cares deeply about community concerns alongside a commitment to maintain professional standards at work.

Nonetheless anyone who upon starting a appointment with an organisation that has a known track record of discrimination openly dismisses the cultural capital that would enable her to improve the quality of service of that organisation demonstrates a ruthless ambitiousness that places career first, integrity and moral ethics last - well we've seen with the demise of the NPBA where that leads....

Pity, she could have made a good role model of sorts.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:21 PM

Sister of murdered schoolboy Anthony Walker begins her new life – as a police officer (click for more)



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"I want to be Britain's first black woman chief constable. I know it's a big ambition but I believe in aiming high and I really want to try to do it"



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Posted 06 July 2012 - 12:14 PM

... err ...


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He's back ... in prison !!!

... Ali Dizaei's back ... in prison


Actually, here we go again ...

Ali Dizaei granted second appeal against conviction (click for the latest in this saga)

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:20 PM

Meet former Scotland Yard "detective", 30 year-old Brother Ryan Coleman-Farrow, from St Leonards-on-Sea, Hastings, East Sussex ...



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... yesterday Brother Coleman-Farrow pleaded guilty to 13 counts of misconduct in a public office at Southwark Crown Court. He failed to investigate rape and sexual assault cases and falsified entries on a police computer system. The 13 counts to which he pleaded guilty to relate to 10 rape cases and three cases of sexual assault. The offences he should have investigated were committed between January 2007 and September 2010, while he was an officer at Kingston-upon-Thames, south-west London, working for Scotland Yard's specialist Sapphire unit. The cases involved 12 complainants and 11 suspects, and in "almost all" the 13 cases no proceedings had resulted, prosecutor Mark Heywood QC said. An IPCC commission spokesman said that Brother Coleman-Farrow had made false or misleading crime report entries 32 times, falsified a witness statement and twice claimed to have interviewed a rape suspect when he had not done so.


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Brother Coleman-Farrow was bailed and is due to be sentenced on 11 October 2012.






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