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#41 Twang

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 10:55 PM

All I can say is european imperialism as completely lobotomised minds of some so called Africans every other conceivable race depicts Africans as closer to Animals even the American constitution has us down as 3/5ths of a human being yet pointing out the blatant discrepancies and flaws in others leaves African apologist cowering under the table squirming

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE (Twang @ Aug 12 2006, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...every other conceivable race depicts Africans as closer to Animals even the American constitution has us down as 3/5ths of a human...


The irony is you are fighting the "authority" that remains in your head.

When you have got rid of "massa" from your subconscious you will be able to concentrate on your own business.

Edited by BlackMatta, 12 August 2006 - 11:10 PM.

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 09:12 PM



Best of British


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 07:51 AM

QUOTE (MarcusGarveyLives @ Aug 15 2006, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Best of British


Mmmmmmmmm! I bet you don't get many of those to the pound. biggrin.gif

The woman looks old enough to be Harry's mother.

And she also looks as though she could do with a really good scrub and rinse.

You Slag!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 12:29 PM



Football Hooligans - putting the 'Great' into Great Britain

Edited by InCharge, 16 August 2006 - 12:30 PM.

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 10:36 AM

@ Paleface

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“Er, isn't that kid wearing a Dutch football strip?”


And your point is what exactly? I understand that as a european you feel the need to be unnecessarily pedantic about this sort of thing (as a cheap way to evade debating the real issue), but if you think this child is not representative of the children of British hooligans, then you are being either very naïve or very disingenuous. Being racially abused by young british children is not the rarity for us as it may be for someone like you who is not on the receiving end.

For the record, for Africans, there is very little difference between the mindset of the various european nationals. This might be a little difficult for you to follow but their subjugation of African people, particularly for their own economic benefit is something that most europeans want and aspire to, whether they are british, french, russian or dutch. So from our POV, you are all one in the same.

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“Do you also fail to distinguish between Jamaicans and Africans”


Jamaicans ARE Africans.

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“It appears that many posters are defined purely by what they oppose, not by what they promote.”


A common misconception amongst europeans. Actually, there are an abundance of threads and posts that are completely defined by a love for Africa and African people. Understandably though, these would not interest someone like yourself who is more than happy to summarise our debates and discussions as “solely concerned with disparaging europeans”.

In addition, I should state that as Africans who are continuously under cultural, social, economic and mental attack from the european supremacist agenda, we unfortunately have to dedicate some of time to ‘fire fighting’ i.e. challenging, debunking and defeating those who seek to oppress us. We are not europeans so we do not have the luxury of sitting back and getting intoxicated on cocktails laced with cultural and political complacency.


@ PH

I totally hear you on the troll thing. Really, I do. But I don’t think that engaging with them has to be problematic as long as we;

1 ) Don’t obsess about them i.e. feel the need to reply to everything they say
2 ) Accept that they will never change – ultimately, attempts to change their opinion will nearly always lead to failure
3 ) Ensure that 99% of our time (on and off line) is dedicated to empowering our people
4 ) Completely ignore the more low-grade posters. I don’t know if you remember a character called ‘Texas’ from way back in the day on Blacknet but he would say things like ‘you are all monkeys’ etc – this is the kind of thing that should be avoided at all costs. Particularly as Admin will just delete it anyway.

europeans have this feeling of moral and cultural superiority because they think that we are stupid, inarticulate, incapable and ultimately, beneath them. Like paleface, they attempt to subvert our arguments by either anally focusing on what they perceive to be some kind of minor factual inaccuracy or by infusing their discussions with subtly patronising wit. Bottom line however, is that just like Donahue versus Khalid Muhammed, if we remain level headed and avoid falling into what they think are their intellectual traps, we have nothing to worry about. If anything, just see it for the humouring pastime it is.

As you know, we allow euros on here because ultimately, we have nothing to fear. They are free to bring their nonsense, I mean contributions, and we are free to tear them to shreds if we can be bothered. Their nosing around in our business online is the least of our worries.
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Posted 18 August 2006 - 12:32 PM

Since you have directly responded to me, I shall reply to this.

And your point is what exactly? I understand that as a european you feel the need to be unnecessarily pedantic about this sort of thing (as a cheap way to evade debating the real issue), but if you think this child is not representative of the children of British hooligans, then you are being either very naïve or very disingenuous.

For the record, for Africans, there is very little difference between the mindset of the various european nationals. This might be a little difficult for you to follow but their subjugation of African people, particularly for their own economic benefit is something that most europeans want and aspire to, whether they are british, french, russian or dutch. So from our POV, you are all one in the same...
...Jamaicans ARE Africans.


I didn't intend to sidestep the issue. While the image is indicative of european hooligan culture - europeans are not all hooligans. They exist, but they are not the "future" of this country.
It is this aspect of the thread I wished to address. My feeling is that the thread is about the promotion of a stereotype of europeans. While it is true about a common facet of european "culture" (or lack of), the exaggeration of this stereotype to me seems intended to promote a separatist African agenda. I was advised by posters (like African Phoenix) to go to Stormfront, a common reply to any disagreeable europeans daring to post here. I did, and it is peculiarly similair to Ligali, though more insidious. One of the things I notice in particular is their attempts to focus on negative representations of Africans. This is done by focussing on any criminal or violent activity committed by Africans in the press. There is a thread that contains many links to video footage of Africans caught in criminal acts. To my mind, this is a ridiculously transparent attempt to instil fear/hate of Africans, and I feel the same way about the manner in which Africans on this forum insist on engaging in the same game. What excuses this behaviour in Ligali is the fact that this stereotyping of Africans is much more widespread in our mainstream media, and to that end I can appreciate the frustration which is vented against europeans on this forum.

My point about Africans and Jamaicans is that BlackMatta identifies the child as English using primarily physical characteristics. We are viewed as a homogenous whole. At another time on this board, I was criticised for failing to appreciate the scope of African culture, the vast range of customs and people that are united under the term African. As you must appreciate, those customs are not always sympathetic to each other. While Jamaicans are ethnically African, culturally there is a degree of tension between Jamaicans and Africans. This is referred to by other African posters in this forum, wherein Africans sometimes refer to Jamaicans as Jamos. In addition to this, there is evident conflict between Africans born in this country and the recent migration of Somalians to this country. Now, I do not intend to raise these issues to criticise African culture (as Donahue attempted) but merely to point out that while I share ethnicity with europeans, I may not share their cultural values. I despise hooliganism, and generally don't like football because it invites that type of boorish behaviour.

I posed the question to illustrate that this "anthroplogical" approach is inappropriate when applied to Africans (and IMO europeans - even though europeans were the first to attempt to conduct this approach, and still do), as is Freelance Scientists reference to europeans as Caucasians in contrast to his outrage in being addressed as a Negro - which is not something I personally would wish to do - but which I have done in order to highlight the double standard.

However, I appreciate that Ligali appears to represent a sector of the African population that does not wish to engage with europeans at all, regardless of intentions, and so I will avoid posting here unless directly addressed. Incidentally, I thought the interview with Dr.Muhammad was brilliant. Regarding my alleged belief in moral or cultural superiority, I do not percieve you as inferior to me, that is your own perception.

Edited by Paleface, 18 August 2006 - 01:12 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2006 - 01:47 PM

QUOTE (Voo @ Aug 18 2006, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
europeans have this feeling of moral and cultural superiority because they think that we are stupid, inarticulate, incapable and ultimately, beneath them. Like paleface, they attempt to subvert our arguments by either anally focusing on what they perceive to be some kind of minor factual inaccuracy or by infusing their discussions with subtly patronising wit. Bottom line however, is that just like Donahue versus Khalid Muhammed, if we remain level headed and avoid falling into what they think are their intellectual traps, we have nothing to worry about. If anything, just see it for the humouring pastime it is.

As you know, we allow euros on here because ultimately, we have nothing to fear. They are free to bring their nonsense, I mean contributions, and we are free to tear them to shreds if we can be bothered. Their nosing around in our business online is the least of our worries.


Basically.

There's a lot I could say to them but it would just be futile. I just don't want Africans to fall into the trap of exhausting themselves and wasting their energy. That's the same mistake a lot of us made when dealing with the likes of 'Texas' and 'uknative'. The only difference is, is that now you have supposed anti racists who tell us we're no different to white supremacists such as those on Stormfront simply because we vent our frustrations on the day to day realities we have to suffer as a result of living in a society that continues to marginalise us. They tend to forget that once they go offline, they enjoy the benefits of white privilege. They tend to forget that apart from brusing their egos, we're not in a position of power to do them any harm. They tend to forget that they can go ANYWHERE in the country, even the 'black' neighbourhoods and not fear having an axe swung in their heads because of their ethnicity, while we couldn't even venture into certain parts of LONDON without the fear of a racist attack.

They don't know that some Africans have requested by PM that they be banned, but the supposed 'racist' African moderators in their mercy have allowed them to stay on, while if we as Africans went to other sites waxing lyrical and lecturing them, WE would get banned immediately.

Yet they want to bawl living eye water when a minority of us stand up to them and say enough. Honestly.......

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My point about Africans and Jamaicans is that BlackMatta identifies the child as English using primarily physical characteristics. We are viewed as a homogenous whole.


I point out characteristic differences between Dutch and English and you arrive at homogeneity???

Saying that particular physical characteristics are English does not translate to all English have that characteristic and are homogenous. All it is saying is that europeans are not physically homogeneous.

But for a troll who wants to switch the agenda any excuse will do...

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The word "hooligan" is English. Hooliganism is English culture spread to europe. Don't try to disown or generalise the disease. It is for economic reasons and not social or moral ones that your government decided to address the issue (with your David Mellor furiously defending the hooligan culture to the last). "Hooligan" in many other european languages translates to "hooligan" because England is where it came from and England is its capital.
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Posted 18 August 2006 - 02:16 PM

Let's leave it - it's not worth it.

Edited by Paleface, 18 August 2006 - 02:51 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2006 - 03:09 PM

QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't deny that there are many dangerous european assholes. I can't directly relate to that experience, but I'm not unaware of it. I understand that in this context, any posts I critcise come from someone whose experience of racism is trivial.

Yet I live in Bristol, one of the old centres of the slave trade and we have the 5th largest African population in the UK. Africans and europeans have to live much closer to each other and so it is in my interests to understand that relationship better. I have met many europeans here that try to slyly insinuate a racist comment into the conversation - and I give them S**T for it. Not for Africans, but because it stinks of stupidity.

I'm also part of a community where Africans and europeans are free to socialise with each other, and do so. This is one of the unique aspects of Bristol, that racism, tolerance and even friendship exists in such close quarters. Although it hasn't escaped my notice that the more desirable areas in terms of location and property values are almost exclusively inhabited by europeans.

You're telling me all this for what?

Yeah, Bristol sounds like a such a WONDERFUL, utopian community from what you described. All those Africans and europeans living together as one.....it's so beautiful. Pity that same lovely community of yours, a few months ago, stuck two fingers up at their African neighbours by absolutely refusing to apologise for or even acknowledge the role Britain played in the African Holocaust. Interesting the way the love city of Bristol's true colours shined through when europeans came out with the most anti African vitriol that wasn't at all challenged by the european presenters. Pure loveliness that is.....
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I am aware that some Africans may want me banned, I have invited it myself and wouldn't be upset if it occurred. I simply disagree with people, yet it is always made into an issue of race, not of logic. It might interest you that a few people have PMed me to ask me to desist at times, and I have done so when asked, out of respect.

Yet you continue to come back, despite it being made clear on numerous occasions you weren't wanted here? Maybe it's not YOUR logic, but this forum is made for the people, by the people.

LOL - have I asked the moderator to ban anyone? No. It's not me that's crying, or posting up pictures saying "F*** off Cracker". I'm willing to engage with people - it's the residents that get stroppy with me for taking part. I'm beginning to appreciate why.

No you haven't asked the moderator to ban anyone because you know it wouldn't happen. You're on our turf, end of story. The day a Ligali moderator bans an African poster because of a request from a european, is the day I stop posting here for good. However I think there's a better chance of me growing guava and mangoes in my back garden in the dead of winter than that happening. You can save your "LOL" because I'm not joking with you.

You can't make me cry. You wouldn't have that effect on me, on or offline. At the most, you're like that annoying fly at an outdoor feast that just won't go away.

People get "stroppy" with you because you're insulting everyone's intelligence with your drivel. There are numerous threads highlighting Africans who are suffering or killed as a result of white supremacist actions, yet you never have a word to say about the dastardly destruction of African lives as a result of the atrocities YOUR people are still committing on a regular basis. Yet you moan about the words or pictures of a few African posters?

The fact is, you don't give a sh*t about African people nor are you in the least bit concerned for the African struggle. You think because you post a few threads here and there about African art and whatnot that we're supposed to feel grateful that a european even bothered to show us a bit of attention. All you want to do is come on here making your catty and snide remarks to us expecting us to just sit there and take that from you.

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QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's leave it - it's not worth it.


I agree. I don't even know what's worse.....your presence or the fact that we even give you the time of day.


P.S. - I like how you type inflammatory comments, then quickly edit your posts as if no one would notice.

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 03:26 PM

sigh - okay then Hakeem.

P.S. - I like how you type inflammatory comments, then quickly edit your posts as if no one would notice.

My apologies, I deleted it in the interests of preventing the thread getting more sidetracked by my presence. Feel free to post it back up, it's not my problem.

The fact is, you don't give a sh*t about African people nor are you in the least bit concerned for the African struggle. You think because you post a few threads here and there about African art and whatnot that we're supposed to feel grateful that a european even bothered to show us a bit of attention.

No not really, again, this is your assumption. I don't require your gratitude.

There are numerous threads highlighting Africans who are suffering or killed as a result of white supremacist actions, yet you never have a word to say about the dastardly destruction of African lives as a result of the atrocities YOUR people are still committing on a regular basis. Yet you moan about the words or pictures of a few African posters?

And if I DID post in those threads what do you think would happen PH? And they ain't MY people any more than the selective CCTV footage of criminals who also happen to be African (i.e:Stormfront) are YOUR people.

You just bumped a thread about White Anti Racists in which it illustrates that "white" people are forbidden from being part of the solution. How then can you hold us accountable for the existence of White Supremacists, since we are unable to challenge those people without bringing more SH*T down on YOUR necks. If I keep quiet, you charge us with failing to stop racism, - with being the White Moderate. If we act up, you charge us with promoting it!

Edited by Paleface, 18 August 2006 - 03:32 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2006 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No not really, again, this is your assumption. I don't require your gratitude.

Then why is it you've moaned in the past about posting threads no one cared to respond to? You yourself have mentioned that you've posted a thread and then soon after, an African poster will make a new thread on the same topic and get replies.

And if I DID post in those threads what do you think would happen PH? And they ain't MY people any more than the selective CCTV footage of criminals who also happen to be African (i.e:Stormfront) are YOUR people.

Nothing would happen, PF. But you've never done it to find out anyway because you could care less about an African life being destroyed. At least on the BN forums posters have actually at times expressed sorrow at the loss of a europeAN life, while YOUR PEOPLE on Stormfront have laughed at the Hurricane Katrina victims and called the deceased Damilola Taylor - a beautiful, innocent African CHILD - a little dead chimp (I could send you a link if you don't believe me.....). And that's not to mention the amount of YOUR people in the past who gloated over the deaths of 13 African children in the New Cross Fire and claimed it was a pity more didn't die among many other examples it hurts me to go into. So don't give me any of your f**keries because I'm not interested.....

And yes they are YOUR people, just like how African criminals are MY people whom I hope to see living a clean life one day.


You just bumped a thread about White Anti Racists in which it illustrates that "white" people are forbidden from being part of the solution. How then can you hold us accountable for the existence of White Supremacists, since we are unable to challenge those people without bringing more SH*T down on YOUR necks. If I keep quiet, you charge us with failing to stop racism, - with being the White Moderate. If we act up, you charge us with promoting it!

Well, have you heard of the europeAN fighter, John Brown? He dealt with his OWN people who were committing atrocities against Africans and he was willing to lay his life on the line in order to fight slavery. He didn't go lecturing the enslaved Africans all day on how they should and shouldn't refer to their european enslavers, he took ACTION against those who oppressed them.

Now to me, this was a REAL man....one of the few europeans in times past I actually have time for and admire. Take a leaf out of his book instead coming on here lectruing us. Deal with your own people first so that one day when all the bullsh*t ceases we won't have any cause for complaint.

Anything else?

Edited by PRINCE HAKEEM, 18 August 2006 - 03:54 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2006 - 04:00 PM

QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I posed the question to illustrate that this "anthroplogical" approach is inappropriate when applied to Africans (and IMO europeans - even though europeans were the first to attempt to conduct this approach, and still do), as is Freelance Scientists reference to europeans as Caucasians in contrast to his outrage in being addressed as a Negro - which is not something I personally would wish to do - but which I have done in order to highlight the double standard.

This statement right here exposé’s your inept ability to get a grasp on what’s actually being said and why people like u are so unwelcome here your institutionalised prejudice cant even allow u to decipher the differences between the uses of the terms Caucasian and Negro along with there origins. Caucasian is a term used to describe a race of europeans by europeans with akin to their origins ie the Caucus mountains which we now call europe. Where Negro is just a B*stard sanitised version of an all ready derogatory term which u call N!!gger used by cracka’s to describe Africans deriving from the Spanish word Necro meaning dead.

You see this proves again that your way out of your depth and your persistence in comparing Ligali to a bunch of brain dead cracka’s at storm front proves just like the average typical arrogant european after all of the peeping and spying u have learned absolutely nothing. You see u people will never change that’s why as european u can never be trusted... and your meant to be the liberal one???


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Posted 18 August 2006 - 04:04 PM

QUOTE (Twang @ Aug 18 2006, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This statement right here exposé’s your inept ability to get a grasp on what’s actually being said and why people like u are so unwelcome here your institutionalised prejudice cant even allow u to decipher the differences between the uses of the terms Caucasian and Negro along with there origins. Caucasian is a term used to describe a race of europeans by europeans with akin to their origins ie the Caucus mountains which we now call europe. Where Negro is just a B*stard sanitised version of an all ready derogatory term which u call N!!gger used by cracka’s to describe Africans deriving from the Spanish word Necro meaning dead.

You see this proves again that your way out of your depth and your persistence in comparing Ligali to a bunch of brain dead cracka’s at storm front proves just like the average typical arrogant european after all of the peeping and spying u have learned absolutely nothing. You see u people will never change that’s why as european u can never be trusted... and your meant to be the liberal one???


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Posted 18 August 2006 - 05:17 PM

"Then why is it you've moaned in the past about posting threads no one cared to respond to? You yourself have mentioned that you've posted a thread and then soon after, an African poster will make a new thread on the same topic and get replies."

I don't care that no one responded to it, or that someone subsequently posted the same link - the point is that I did post something that was evidently of interest to you - since another African poster did the same thing. This was to illustrate that I don't post, contrary to the endless accusations, in order to disrupt and cast aspersions about Africans. This in turn was intended to demonstrate that regardless of what I post, be it positive or negative, it will always be percieved as negative. Again, that ain't my problem.

Nothing would happen, PF. But you've never done it to find out anyway because you could care less about an African life being destroyed.

I have expressed sorrow on this board for acts of violence against Africans Hakeem, you're just selective in your references. Furthermore, you have no idea what or who I care about. Maybe the denizens of StormFront laughed at the victims of Katrina, personally I donated money to the relief effort. Of course I'm sure you'll find some way of turning that into some prejudiced action or misplaced appeal to your gratitude. It's not - it's just a fact.

"a little dead chimp (I could send you a link if you don't believe me.....)"

No, I believe you, I've been to StormFront - it's a sh*thole. Do you mean to tell me that African people wish europeans well?

your persistence in comparing Ligali to a bunch of brain dead cracka’s at storm front proves just like the average typical arrogant european after all of the peeping and spying u have learned absolutely nothing

I thought negro was derived from the latin Niger - meaning black (which it also means in Spanish and French- i.e: negre. I shall have to take your word for it - although muerto is Spanish for dead.
However, the fact that African people are ethnically referred to as negros in european institutions while europeans are referred to as Caucasians does highlight a very valid point about the racism at the heart of these terms - otherwise Caucasians would be known as Blancos.

I don't dispute that hooligans exist, that they exist in great numbers in England and that violent racism exists in the hearts of many English men and women. I do dispute the construction of meaningless one dimensional pantomime stereotypes of a group of people, be they African, european or otherwise.

This all kicked off because I pointed out the kid wasn't English (or might not be because of what he's wearing). I admit that in the grand scheme of things this is hardly important. England is indeed full of hooligans and racists and this is something that Caucasians generally do not have to worry about. So when one turns up here nitpicking it's aggravating. Not least because the threat of violence and oppression to you is very real. So I'm sorry for getting involved in this row, I concede.

I appreciate that we'll never agree on anything, and that it is futile for me to post anything here. So let's just call it a day shall we - it's the weekend and there's no use in getting all fired up. I don't wish you any ill.

Edited by Paleface, 18 August 2006 - 05:32 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2006 - 05:35 PM

Whatever...

I could destroy any argument you put across, but to be honest I'm done with the verbal ping pong for now.

Edited by PRINCE HAKEEM, 18 August 2006 - 05:37 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2006 - 07:31 PM

QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought negro was derived from the latin Niger - meaning black (which it also means in Spanish and French- i.e: negre. I shall have to take your word for it - although muerto is Spanish for dead.
However, the fact that African people are ethnically referred to as negros in european institutions while europeans are referred to as Caucasians does highlight a very valid point about the racism at the heart of these terms - otherwise Caucasians would be known as Blancos.

No. Necro as in Necrophilia is ancient Greek text for dead as it was they who first stumble across we Africans before invading Egypt and steeling the knowledge only to pass it off as if were there own. They are all still derivatives of the same disrespectful word as the majority of european language derives from ancient Greek and Latin text which given your argument u seem to subconsciously endorse.

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I appreciate that we'll never agree on anything, and that it is futile for me to post anything here. So let's just call it a day shall we - it's the weekend and there's no use in getting all fired up. I don't wish you any ill.

How many times are u going to say this u sound like a scratched record please change the tune!

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Again, that ain't my problem.


You have mentioned quite a few times the various things that are not your problem yet you still persist in posting about issues that are not your problem(?) Hhhmmm

QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you mean to tell me that African people wish europeans well?


Well i'm african and i don't wish harm on anybody, least of all you, so yes i do wish you well i can do that because i don't have a foundation of genetic hatred. What i wish for is the upliftment and ascension of my people thats were i focus my energy thats far more important.

QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So when one turns up here nitpicking it's aggravating. Not least because the threat of violence and oppression to you is very real.


Yet your doing it again>>>

QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought negro was derived from the latin Niger - meaning black (which it also means in Spanish and French- i.e: negre. I shall have to take your word for it - although muerto is Spanish for dead.
However, the fact that African people are ethnically referred to as negros in european institutions while europeans are referred to as Caucasians does highlight a very valid point about the racism at the heart of these terms - otherwise Caucasians would be known as Blancos.



QUOTE (Paleface @ Aug 18 2006, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I appreciate that we'll never agree on anything, and that it is futile for me to post anything here. So let's just call it a day shall we - it's the weekend and there's no use in getting all fired up. I don't wish you any ill.


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Posted 25 August 2006 - 09:16 PM

More examples of this wonderful aspect of Bri'ish culcha:

http://news.bbc.co.u...2002/hooligans/

I may just start another thread entitled Bri'ish Culture part 2: Terrible Hygiene




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